• Rogers Launches 5G Network with Galaxy S20

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    acurrie
    Published on 03-06-2020 05:22 PM
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    And access is free, but only until next year.

    Alongside the new trio of Samsung Galaxies—the S20, S20+ and S20 Ultra—Rogers is also launching 5G service in Toronto, Ottawa, Montreal and Vancouver. Phase one of the 5G rollout (live as of today) is using 2.5 GHz spectrum, with 600 MHz spectrum support coming later this year.

    To access the new network you'll need compatible hardware and a subscription to a Rogers Infinite plan. Oh, and come March 6th, 2021 you'll have to pony up an additional $15/month for the privilege. Because, Canada? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    Sources: iPhone in Canada (1) (2), Mobile Syrup

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    Andrew Currie has been blogging about mobile phones since 2001, smartphones (depending on how you define them) since 2002 and smartwatches since 2014.
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    This article was originally published in forum thread: Rogers Launches 5G Network with Galaxy S20 started by acurrie View original post
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    1. sheytoon's Avatar
      sheytoon - 03-06-2020, 05:13 PM
      The combo is 2A-66A for LTE and n41 on NR. 40 MHz LTE + 20 MHz of TDD NR. It's technically slower than Rogers/Bell/Telus LTE.
    1. Samshares's Avatar
      Samshares - 03-06-2020, 08:10 PM
      This is hilarious robbery by the carriers.

      $15/month....to 5G....which is the future and will be replacing the current 4G/LTE network.....

      So the government gave them 2 years to discount 25%....

      Lets say current $65/10GB = $48.75 (with 25% Discount).......add $15 for 5G....and you are back to $63.75.....but they will find another base plan fee or something to get you back there......Canada doesnt innovate....they just keep going back and forth and gouging the hard working taxpayers.
    1. @Class's Avatar
      @Class - 03-07-2020, 09:57 AM
      Quote Originally Posted by Samshares View Post
      This is hilarious robbery by the carriers.

      $15/month....to 5G....which is the future and will be replacing the current 4G/LTE network.....

      So the government gave them 2 years to discount 25%....

      Lets say current $65/10GB = $48.75 (with 25% Discount).......add $15 for 5G....and you are back to $63.75.....but they will find another base plan fee or something to get you back there......Canada doesnt innovate....they just keep going back and forth and gouging the hard working taxpayers.
      Yeah it's nuts... $15 to access it? wow.
    1. sheytoon's Avatar
      sheytoon - 03-10-2020, 09:22 AM
      Sorry it's actually 30 MHz for LTE and 20 MHz for NR in GTA. Maximum network speed is 900 Mbps.
      Rogers LTE maximum is 1.1 Gbps.
      Bell/Telus LTE maximum is 1.48 Gbps.
      Quote Originally Posted by sheytoon View Post
      The combo is 2A-66A for LTE and n41 on NR. 40 MHz LTE + 20 MHz of TDD NR. It's technically slower than Rogers/Bell/Telus LTE.
    1. zivan56's Avatar
      zivan56 - 03-10-2020, 04:33 PM
      In Vancouver, they've got two B2 carriers (10MHz and 15MHz) and 20MHz B4 (66 MFBI) alongside 20 MHz for NR.

      What is odd is I haven't seen any reviews of the service or screenshots even...?
    1. Tornado15550's Avatar
      Tornado15550 - 03-10-2020, 06:27 PM
      Quote Originally Posted by zivan56 View Post
      What is odd is I haven't seen any reviews of the service or screenshots even...?
      Correct me if I'm wrong, but BYOD is not supported at this time, right? So the only way to access Rogers 5G is to be on a compatible plan and get an S20 5G from Rogers. That explains why there aren't any screenshots yet.

      Quote Originally Posted by sheytoon View Post
      Sorry it's actually 30 MHz for LTE and 20 MHz for NR in GTA. Maximum network speed is 900 Mbps.
      Rogers LTE maximum is 1.1 Gbps.
      Bell/Telus LTE maximum is 1.48 Gbps.
      Yikes! This is why I'll wait for SA mode and VoNR to launch before jumping onto 5G.
    1. sheytoon's Avatar
      sheytoon - 03-10-2020, 06:46 PM
      Are both B2 channels used for LTE in Vancouver? I didn't see 2A-2A-66A_n41A in the UE capability message of the S20. I think only one B2 carrier is supported in the combo. Rogers would probably pick the 15 MHz for that.
      Quote Originally Posted by zivan56 View Post
      In Vancouver, they've got two B2 carriers (10MHz and 15MHz) and 20MHz B4 (66 MFBI) alongside 20 MHz for NR.

      What is odd is I haven't seen any reviews of the service or screenshots even...?
    1. zivan56's Avatar
      zivan56 - 03-12-2020, 10:52 PM
      Yes they are active. Too bad they can't use both or band 7, I hope future releases let more Canadian specific combos be used.
    1. big samm's Avatar
      big samm - 03-26-2020, 03:48 AM
      Anyone tried a speed test on Rogers 5G's network?
      I have a S20 Ultra but im not with Rogers anymore :/
      Real curious to see what kind of speed we'll be getting in Canada...

      Sent from my SM-G988W using Tapatalk
    1. The_Night_Owl's Avatar
      The_Night_Owl - 03-26-2020, 06:16 PM
      Quote Originally Posted by big samm View Post
      Anyone tried a speed test on Rogers 5G's network?
      I have a S20 Ultra but im not with Rogers anymore :/
      Real curious to see what kind of speed we'll be getting in Canada...

      Sent from my SM-G988W using Tapatalk
      Yeah, @bsnider001 posted at RFD that he 'was kind of disappointed'.

      His screenshot in Montreal showed:
      183 Mbps download
      42.3 Mbps upload
      16 ms ping
      16 ms jitter
      0.0% packet loss

      Source:
      https://forums.redflagdeals.com/roge...7/2/#p32306364

      Sent from my SM-G960W using Tapatalk
    1. big samm's Avatar
      big samm - 03-26-2020, 10:52 PM
      Wow that's pretty weak if you ask me....
      I just did a Speed test right before replying here and get 200+ on Bell's Lte Advance... On my S20 Ultra

      Sent from my SM-G988W using Tapatalk
    1. Samshares's Avatar
      Samshares - 03-28-2020, 10:39 AM
      So far 5G isn't what it should be....I've gotten similar if not better speeds on Telus LTE-A with similar ping.
    1. sheytoon's Avatar
      sheytoon - 03-28-2020, 02:03 PM
      To get faster speeds, we need to wait until early 2021, when n78 gets deployed.
    1. zivan56's Avatar
      zivan56 - 03-28-2020, 02:12 PM
      Yes if enough n78 is actually obtained by Rogers. They currently have tons with the Inukshuk partnership, but that most likely won't be allowed for mobile use as is.

      Don't forget a new phone as well, as the north american s20 doesn't support n78
    1. MomoSmith's Avatar
      MomoSmith - 03-28-2020, 10:44 PM
      interesting! The promise of 5G isn't what it turns out to be...
    1. sheytoon's Avatar
      sheytoon - 03-29-2020, 11:08 AM
      The whole concept of NSA 5G is stupid. It makes network and phone designs complicated, and has no meaningful benefit over LTE.

      The real 5G advancements will come with SA, once the 5G core is deployed. That's still 1-2 years away, and it'll take another few years for it to mature.
    1. big samm's Avatar
      big samm - 03-30-2020, 07:12 AM
      Another on Lte A. At this point i really don't know if i really need 5G. Unless im using my phone as a Hotspot and using a laptop i don't think i need 5G... Lte A is more than enough for me.

      Sent from my SM-G988W using Tapatalk
    1. @Class's Avatar
      @Class - 04-01-2020, 12:39 AM
      Quote Originally Posted by sheytoon View Post
      The whole concept of NSA 5G is stupid. It makes network and phone designs complicated, and has no meaningful benefit over LTE.

      The real 5G advancements will come with SA, once the 5G core is deployed. That's still 1-2 years away, and it'll take another few years for it to mature.
      Completely agree. On Virgin I could always go into LTE only and still make and receive calls, no WCDMA at all.

      On Telus is seems a gamble (at least it was 2 months ago when I tried). For the first few minutes it does indeed work, but hours later calls will bounce for both incoming and outgoing.

      It does feel like there is unneeded complexity around it, but it was a marketing push. For the end user it felt half baked when LTE came out needing to drop to HSPA to make calls for example. Somehow the networks and phones still pulled it off.

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