Reply With QuoteI went back to physical sim so I could swap from iPhone 13 to Pixel. I never tried to swap with the esim because I was told of the difficulty by T-Mobile rep.
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For those that are using the eSIM, is it as easy to move from one phone to another? My main motivation for going with the physical SIM route is to make it easy to change phones. I have zero experience with eSIMs so I have no idea what it's like. I have also read that the carriers also implement eSIM differently with AT&T possibly being the worse? What is T-Mobile's implementation like? Is it the best? Easy to go from iPhone to iPhone or iPhone to Google Pixel?
Why yes, that is a bag phone
I went back to physical sim so I could swap from iPhone 13 to Pixel. I never tried to swap with the esim because I was told of the difficulty by T-Mobile rep.
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If one takes the cynical view, Apple pushed for eSIM because it's harder to swap devices. However fundamentally its basically like replacing your physical SIM with a new one. Because of the account takeover protections it's not trivial but not that hard. However unless you really have a need for eSIM (I'm running dual SIMs as I have a UK SIM as well) I would stick with the physical SIM.
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How is it difficult? Does TMO charge to move eSIM from one phone to another? I think iPhone to iPhone is free because of iOS, but I don't know about Android.Originally Posted by prof68
Why yes, that is a bag phone
No charge but you have to call them to do the swap each time if going back and forth iOS to Android.
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I've used eSIM a handful of times on my Pixel 3a XL and my wife's 3a, but it was only for temporary or infrequently used plans during international travel. That worked out well, but I'm not sure how comfortable I'd be using eSIM for my everyday plan, in the event I'd have to change phones.
The perceived or real inability to easily switch phones using eSIM, at least with Android, seems like a big disadvantage to eSIM.
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With TMO, is it true that going from iPhone to iPhone means no call is necessary? Only iPhone to Android and Android to Android requires calling TMO?
Let's say I buy a brand-new Google Pixel. While setting up, how do I get it to download the eSIM while entering the credentials to my account?
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This is the most interesting discussion of eSIMs I've ever read.
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Does anyone else here know?
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I wanted T-Mobile service for my new phone via eSIM because I swap secondary SIM cards more frequently than phones.
Provisioning took longer than expected, but it's been working just fine ever since.
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I have been using eSIM for a few years. On Verizon it has been very easy for the last year since the iPhone 14 came out. You just log into your account, enter the IMEI (or it remembers past devices) and the eSIM profile is sent to that phone. It takes 2 minutes. But with T-Mobile they turned off that self-serve feature. They had it for a while and turned it off citing security which doesn't surprise me considering how often they get hacked. iPhone is supposed to have side-by-side eSIM transfer feature that should theoretically work but I have never tried it.
A call to T-Mobile should be all it takes to change devices but it's a phone call so for the time being I'd stick with physical SIM until they bring back the self-serve feature. They just brought it back for business accounts but not consumer.
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Thanks for that info, RF9. It seems like Vzw has it figured out to work well. Hopefully T-Mobile gets that feature back soon.
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There a lot of caveats, but you can get eSim.me product (expensive). Load esim onto a physical sim that can be moved around.
Why? Only if you want dual eSIM enabled (iPhones already have this, most androids don't - pixel7 does) . But unlike iphone, you have to be careful where the eSim is loaded. If both are on the same slot, then you can't have both enabled at same time
Otherwise stick with physical sim ( use eSim slot for travel
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Apple really wants to go portless, so I'm sure that is a major reason. No SD card slot, that removes one source of water entry and wasted space, and no worries about different qualities of SD cards. And of course charge more for a bigger storage device. Many companies have followed their lead.
Wireless charging leading to a future where you don't have wired charging. Not there yet.
iPhones can backup to local computer using wi-fi, as well as to the iCloud. So less of a need for a wired connection for that.
I suspect that the magsafe protocol has, or will have, a way to configure an iPhone to make it easier to transfer data without entering in wi-fi access keys, and is close so it is fast.
They have already got rid of audio port.
eSIMs aren't still as generally easy to transfer between phones as pSIMs. Carriers have to do their part, and the carriers like ATT makes it more difficult for prepaid than postpaid. Downside of pSIMs is that they are tiny, most phones in the US only allow 1, etc. Several years ago when I went on vacation I had to swap SIMs. In the airport. And hope I didn't lose my primary one before I safely inserted it on the way home.
iPhone 12 Pro is my current phone I carry.
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This is an interesting discussion. I'm debating on ordering the iPhone 14Pro. Per AppleReason I came here was to ask if I will have to pay TMobile to switch my number to the iPhone 14Pro.Dual eSIM (two active eSIMs, stores eight or more eSIMs). iPhone 14 Pro and iPhone 14 Pro Max use eSIM technology and are not compatible with physical SIM cards.
The Apple website saysIt also saysYour new iPhone will have eSIM, a digital SIM that eliminates the need for a physical SIM card. With eSIM, you can quickly and easily transfer an existing cellular plan or get a new cellular plan, all digitally. So there’s no need to visit your carrier’s store. You can even store multiple eSIMs on the same device and have two phone numbers active at the same time.So, does that mean I can do it without even contacting TMobile? I really prefer to take care of things myself to the extent possible. It irritates me to pay someone to do something that I can do myself.For AT&T or T-Mobile customers, you’ll activate your new iPhone by following a few simple steps on screen when you set it up.
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